There is a plan to reform prisons in Illinois. (Photo credit: Mike Stephen/WGN Radio)

Mike Stephen discusses a plan to address inhumane living conditions in Illinois correctional facilities with Jennifer Vollen-Katz, the executive director of the John Howard Association of Illinois, and learns the story of the Chicago avant-garde band The Devil Bell Hippies. To subscribe to the OTL podcast, please visit our Apple Podcasts Page, Spotify, or our RSS feed.