Mike Stephen conversates with: Plastic Crimewave (aka Steve Krakow) about Chicago blues drummer Sam Lay for this week’s edition of The Secret History of Chicago Music; OTL Winter Tavern Tour #4: Grace and Leavitt Tavern, and; Black Oil Brothers into the studio to make some sweet, sweet jamz. To subscribe to the OTL podcast, please visit our iTunes page or RSS feed.

Mike Stephen gets warm and cozy with: OTL listener CJ and Chris the bartender of Guthries Tavern for the first installment of the OTL’s 2018 Winter Tavern Tour; Shamus Toomey, editor-in-chief, Block Club Chicago, and Jill Doub, senior director of public engagement for Peggy Notebart Nature Museum, about the Chicago Volunteer Expo. This week’s local music is powered by Black Road. To subscribe to the OTL podcast, please visit our iTunes page or RSS feed.