(podcasting from the studios in the OTL Bunker, somewhere in Chicago)

(broadcasting on the “it’s OK to like Dave Matthews” radio station WLUW-FM (88.7) Chicago)

Mike Stephen discusses the city’s interference of small business startups and entrepreneurs, chats with a local writer about whether or not it’s ok to enjoy Dave Matthews, and learns what an Illinois atheist activist is blogging about these days.

Beth Milnikel – Director of the Institute for Justice Clinic on Entrepreneurship at the University of Chicago Law School

Beth recently wrote an op-ed for the Chicago Tribune arguing that the city stands in the way of small business startups more often than not.  We discuss her views on this issue.

Steve Heisler – Assistant City Editor for Decider Chicago and Contributor to The AV Club

Recently Steve wrote this blog post that raises the question, “Should we still hate Dave Matthews?”

Rob Sherman – Blogger at Godless In Chicago at ChicagoNow.com

For an atheist’s POV of local politics and other issues, Rob Sherman’s blog is a popular read.  He chats with us this week about atheism and the local separation of church and state.

OTL #148 local music provided by The Smoking Popes…

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