Mike Stephen discusses the legacy and impact of the Heather Mack case with Rasul Freelain, a former Oak Park police officer and author of the new book When Lambs Become Wolves. Then he talks with Jennifer Mosley, board president of HelloBaby and senior associate at the Obama Foundation, about building community in Chicago’s Woodlawn neighborhood. To subscribe to the OTL podcast, please visit our Apple Podcasts Page, Spotify, or our RSS feed.